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While the politicians are busy painting imaginary pictures of success by declaring operation blunt dagger and "new comprehensive strategies", the public opinion is shifting drastically. Here are some comments on a BBC "Have your say" thread.
Added: Friday, 10 July, 2009, 10:39 GMT 11:39 UK
We are paying the price in blood once again for the slashing and cutting of the armed forces by governments. It has happened in the past on numerous occasions. Politicians never learn lessons, it is always the short term quick fix for them. Pay the price in blood so that you can spend the money on something else. Can we win here? No. The people will simply do what they want anyway, and if living with the Taliban means peace and quiet and going about their lives they will.
ivan terrible, United Kingdom
Added: Friday, 10 July, 2009, 10:35 GMT 11:35 UK
Knowing something about this region, we should not be there, the area has always been tribally run, own laws, own punishments, etc.leave them to it..When they were fighting the Russians it was a 'noble warrior race', films made, Rambo etc..they were called the Mujahadeen, now they are the Taliban, whats the difference, they are the same people, they've nothing to loose, how can you fight an enemy that does not care if they die?,
PKi Alf, Ilford
Added: Friday, 10 July, 2009, 10:31 GMT 11:31 UK
The best strategy is not to fight. We had no legitimate reason to invade, and we are not wanted there. We have neither the moral high ground nor the military advantage.
Brendan Fernandes, Brighton, United Kingdom
Added: Friday, 10 July, 2009, 10:31 GMT 11:31 UK
These soldiers are dying for the cause of western imperialist capitalist globalisation. In other words they are “sacrificing†their lives for a minority who will profit from exploiting this region by keeping it destabilised which strategically is vital for western expansionism. Forget religion, Taliban and Al-Qaida this campaign is about Russia, China, trade routes, pipelines, oil and resources.
zed walker, lancaster
Added: Friday, 10 July, 2009, 10:27 GMT 11:27 UK
How much longer will British Troops be needlessly killed in a totally pointless war in Afganistan? As a now third class nation, who still tries to pretend to be a world power, Lets send our UK Ministers to live and die trying to fight the Taliban.. Which all the power of Russia could not defeat in years of trying. Lets stop this total and needless stupidity. Now.
Thomas Rowland, Hyde
Added: Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 20:09 GMT 21:09 UK
It would have made more sence if we purchased all the opium they could grow and cornered the world market in morphene based drugs which would stop all killings and terrorists and give Afganistan a income with a crop it can grow with ease, it would stop drugs getting to our streets and save thousands of lives ours and theirs - how hard can it be - the west is just using this country as a testing ground for its latest weapons and its war machine without careing about the outcome or problems caused
chris marchant, Brixham, United Kingdom
Added: Friday, 10 July, 2009, 21:14 GMT 22:14 UK
No, no and no again. It is fundamentally flawed. You cannot win a war in Afghanistan, history shows us that. I feel for our brave soldiers being forced to fight ill equipped and fighting an ideaology. We will not win, it is pointless fighting this war and losing any more brave souls. Get out, let the Afghanis fight for themselves. This is not about protecting the UK.
graham evans, newmarket, United Kingdom
Added: Friday, 10 July, 2009, 21:13 GMT 22:13 UK
Even if the Taliban are defeated which I very much doubt, then all that will happen is that the whole thing will simmer on just like the Irish occupation did until the aggressors realise the futility of trying to impose their customs and values on countries who don't want them.
Awesome Geronimo, Leeds
Added: Friday, 10 July, 2009, 21:07 GMT 22:07 UK
Bring the lads home...they,re dropping like flies...and for what..someone elses problems.
Gary, leeds
Added: Friday, 10 July, 2009, 21:02 GMT 22:02 UK
"Is Afghan strategy right?" No, nor is Nato's, nor Australia's. What the hell we are all doing there except trying to tie up future oil pipelines I don't know. The Taliban never attacked the Twin Towers, London, Madrid or Bali so just what is the justification for all these deaths? The Taliban aren't terrorists, they are simply defending their country the same as they have done for centuries. Ask a politician why we are there?
I have: "It's Party policy to support NATO resolutions"
Ian Purdie, Budgewoi NSW, Australia
Added: Friday, 10 July, 2009, 20:53 GMT 21:53 UK
This will just roll on and on eventually becoming the second Vietnam for the US, and the second Northern Ireland for the UK. We shouldn't have gone in in the first place - never mind the ensuing humiliation, pull them all out and bring them home. We need to learn how to fight against terrorism at home, and to fight it in a completely new way, it is not possible to fight the conflicts of today as we did in the past.
Jon Tee
Added: Friday, 10 July, 2009, 20:32 GMT 21:32 UK
This is a war that any student of history could tell you is unwinnable. The British failed to subdue Afghanistan in the 19th century. The former Soviet Union had to admit defeat more recently in the late1980s having invaded the country in 1979. Listening to various politicians and military spokesmen it is unclear to me just what our strategic objectives actually are. And the recent claim by the Minister of Defence that the military are defending Britain from terrorist attack is patent nonsense.
mike cheyne, newcastle upon tyne, United Kingdom
Added: Friday, 10 July, 2009, 20:06 GMT 21:06 UK
Afghanistan defeated the British in 1850, the Soviet Red Army in the 1980's and now loooks like defeating NATO forces in the 2000's. Can someone please explain to me why in God's name we are in Afghanstan. According to Brown we are there to protect the UK from terrorism but I can not see the connection. And also to free the Afghans from the Taliban and create an environment for democracy. The Afghans don't want democracy it is a political structure that is foreign them Get out now
Philip Penter, Broughton Astley
Added: Friday, 10 July, 2009, 19:55 GMT 20:55 UK
This is a pointless never-ending battle that is loosing far too many people than its worth. This country should pull out and focus on protecting the country, rather than gallivanting around the world getting involved in other peoples business. I doubt the government even care about the loss of life, or even the billions of our money wasted on this.
Andy Kinf, SWINDON
Added: Friday, 10 July, 2009, 19:54 GMT 20:54 UK
I wonder if, knowing what HE does, Mr Brown would allow HIS 18 year old son to go to Afghanistan as an ordinary soldier on a front line attack mission? Would he be able to sleep soundly at night, knowing that he cannot afford to spend more money to defend his only son? I would love to hear his answers. Echoes of Blair's "We will pay the blood price". Who is "we". His son? And for what end? Afghanistan is NO threat to this Country or its security.
David Michael, London, United Kingdom
Added: Friday, 10 July, 2009, 19:48 GMT 20:48 UK
We shouldn't be there. We should put the Labour cabinet on trial for war crimes. The public weren't consulted on this 'invasion' because they wouldn't have agreed to it. Blairs bozos just walked right in to a foreign land and started shooting up the place.
Get our lads out of there!
Richard Buttmungous
Added: Friday, 10 July, 2009, 19:38 GMT 20:38 UK
I hate to say it but the Obama Administration promised a wholesale escalation of the war in Afghanistan during the US election campaign and that's exactly what we are now seeing.
There is even less justification for the war in Afghanistan than in Iraq. The people who committed the 9/11 atrocities are mostly long since dead and are wholly irrelevant to what is going on there now.
And why the deafening silence from Stop the War since the US election? What breathtaking hypocrisy!
Munkee, London
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